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Postby DaDwarf » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:04 am

Welcome to the "Is this a fair trade?" Thread
Want to know more about rarities? Check out the Understanding Rarities Guide or "The" Rares List.
Be sure to also read the In depth guide to trading!

*This thread will be remade at approx. 900 pages. Do not remake, we've got it covered ourselves.


Very Important!
Nobody knows what the new UR's will be worth. Asking here for opinions is more then fine but take everything people tell you with a grain of salt!
All new UR's go through the 'it's worth a sorbet or a non' phase but usually the UR's go for quite a lot of other ranges of worths too. Try to work things out with your trading partners, ask for advice but when someone tells you that it's worth a specific pet, do take that with a grain of salt !


And

important Notice


PLEASE DO NOT CLAIM THAT THE NEW UR PETS ARE WORTH A NON.

you DO NOT know their worth! They literally go for anything and everything. Most common trades for neither the zonkey nor the ur cinna have been a non and suggesting that they are is wrong. Purposely trying to change demand so that it becomes worth a non isn't fair to the person who currently is trading their ur pet.

Please give correct advice, include that you've seen trades for a non but also add that they can go for more or less. Stop trying to set worth by repeating over and over that they are worth a non because you find them to be worth that.

This is the exact same reason why the ur peach is not on the list yet. People kept referring to it as being worth a non while now it doesn't quite fetch that.

PLEASE DO NOT CLAIM THE NEW UR PETS ARE WORTH A NON.

Nobody knows what they are worth. Inform people they can go for anything and that you've seen it go for more or less is fine, but don't go around saying 'its worth a non.' UR pets are literally the freedom of trades! I've seen both go for as little as balloon dogs all the way up to ur bee's, zebras and UR bw's. most common is def not a non and their demand has not settled enough to warrant a clear advice on worth. Please know that this is why pets aren't placed until September the following year, demand takes a long long time to settle in!

By claiming you know what they are worth you aren't being honest with the person asking for help and with yourself. Nobody knows what they are worth, and claiming you do gives people a false feeling of security and can make them accept a trade they think is all they are gonna get, while they could've gotten more, or even decline a trade because they thought they could get more while that was really it.

This is not directed at anyone in particular but i've had several 'reports' on people saying UR pets are worth a non and users asking confirmation if this is really true and it's not. Helping is great, but don't force a value onto a pet.

Thank you.






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    Unsure if a trade is fair? Auctioning a pet and want to know which offer is best? Ask here.

    If you want to know what your pet is worth, please ask here.*

Rules

  • Please give a 'why' when replying to a question. No fair/unfair comments, add all the information you can add, why you think something is fair/unfair/in demand/not in demand or why they should or shouldn't accept the trade!
  • Please do not double post your trade on the same page or quote more than twice
  • Feel free to 'bump' your trade to the next page, once a new page has been made
  • When sharing a trade either include pictures, a detailed message or 'share the trade' [information on this below]
  • Do not post if you don't know your rarities*
  • No posting saying "Bookmarking/New thread!/etc" it's spam and is unnecessary. Use your bookmarks function.
  • Do not answer your own trades (that kind of defeats the purpose =P)
  • Do not take all answers to be fact (see below to the first quote)
  • These rules apply to everyone, regardless of who you are

Any advice posted on this thread is the opinion of the member, whether they be a member, staff, general helper, etc. Their position should not be taken into consideration when looking at their advice. Staff only post their opinions, not site facts.

If you are continually posting bad advice to trades and are not heeding the advice of experienced members to learn your rarities before posting, I will begin to report your posts.

If someone is spamming the thread, please do not hesitate to click the report button. We want to keep this thread as spam-free as possible.


    Vampiric wrote:The replies on this thread are subject to everyone's personal opinions, and not all replies may be accurate to the true values you are looking for. You are responsible for your own trades hereafter


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    Evelover wrote:Before posting your trade, please make sure you are using the correct URL. It makes this thread more organized, less busy, and simpler if you post the correct URL.
    If you don’t know how to get the correct URL, here’s how you get it:

    1) Go to the trade you wish to post, and view it.
    2) Look for where it says Viewing a trade offer which you received/sent and find the words that look like this: [share trade]. Click on that.
    3) A page with a short paragraph and white box with a URL should show up.
    4) Copy the URL from the white box and paste it into your post.
    5) Highlight the URL and click the underlined URL button on the dock above your writing space


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    kandria wrote:Face value isn't always the case, the UR cats's even the OMG are still rated lower then a VR (Dogtag) so a rating of OMG doesn't automatically make it the "most valued"

    Just like a '10 VR isn't Equal to an '08 VR.

    I'm just stating not ALL rarity are created equal, please keep that in mind when giving advice.


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    Hekomi & Jeweled wrote:If you are unsure of rarities, don't post. It's taken me months to get where I am. Rarities are not a simple math equation. It doesn't work like that. This thread has been getting more and more people who don't know about rarities posting in it like they do. Have enough respect for the people posting to not post and lead them astray if you DO NOT KNOW. If others who are knowledgeable in rarities have told you you need to learn them better, do that. It is not fair to give other people bad advice just because you think you know. It creates an even tougher job for the people who do know their rarities because they are constantly backtracking and fixing mistakes.

    People are basing important trading decisions on your advice. People have been ripped off and led astray by others giving bad advice. It's giving people who do know their rarities more work because we have to back track and fix mistakes. Very rares do not equal two rares. Rarities don't work like that.

    Please note that this is not directed at any particular person but a collective group of people who are posting bad advice. More and more people are getting ripped off and it's not fair.


    *Originally written by Devilish. Rest written by Hekomi unless otherwise stated. Images were made by Mausoleum for Hekomi and are not allowed to be used otherwise without permission.




Do you have a challenging question that you can't get any definite answers on? Do you need help on figuring out what you need to add to a trade? If the Fair Trade Thread can't help you, feel free to PM one of these people to receive further help. These users have been trading for a long time and know their rarities, and they'll be happy to assist you.

Please do not ask to be on this list, we will notice when you know your rarities and you will be invited


When someone is giving out bad advice please send a help ticket to staff about it. If someone is breaking thread rules (Double posting/spamming and the like) report the post by using the (!) triangle button.
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Re: The "is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby SHARKGVTS » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:04 am

http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/v ... ZflHo9cpfg

Is this fair at all?

EDIT: whoops, wrong trade! ^^"
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Re: The "is this a fair trade?" Thread

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Re: The "is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby DaDwarf » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:05 am

.:Baja Blast:. wrote:http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=59682093&userid=763227&signature=eheEsUTiUP5j1HP_CXh9VA

Is this fair at all?



Overpay to their side, a zodiac is worth an mid-ish 09 rare!
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Re: The "is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby Horror » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:05 am

.:Baja Blast:. wrote:http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=59682093&userid=763227&signature=eheEsUTiUP5j1HP_CXh9VA

Is this fair at all?



They're overpaying, the zodiac usually just gets 1 '09 rare.












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Re: The "is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby marmoris » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:05 am

.:Baja Blast:. wrote:http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=59682093&userid=763227&signature=eheEsUTiUP5j1HP_CXh9VA

Is this fair at all?


Rarity wise this is overpay although I'd wait because of demand ^^
It's up to you!
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Re: The "is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby Archiy » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:06 am

Hello!
http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=59767190&userid=675457&signature=h3qwHHlxzPSDCYr6kXhCXQ
Is this fair? If not what needs to be added/subtracted from the trade.
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Re: The "is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby Oblivion. » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:06 am

Is 09 UR Dog for Nonballoon fair demand and rarity wise?
If not then what should be added?
Thank you in advance.
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Re: The "is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby *Leoni* » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:07 am

Rose PPS = Blue Toxic?
Including rarity and demand both if you may?
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Re: The "is this a fair trade?" Thread

Postby twozier » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:07 am

.:Baja Blast:. wrote:http://www.chickensmoothie.com/trades/viewtrade.php?id=59682093&userid=763227&signature=eheEsUTiUP5j1HP_CXh9VA

Is this fair at all?

rarity wise they are overpaying, as the horse is an '09 very rare and your pet is just an '10 rare. Demand wise you may be able to fetch a bit more
really it's just your choice , if you like the trade accept it, if you don't decline

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